Boundaries – Gregersen Law https://gregersenlaw.com land, boundary, criminal Sun, 18 Nov 2018 04:34:18 +0000 en-US hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.3 https://gregersenlaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/cropped-Logomakr_45wtw9-150x150-32x32.png Boundaries – Gregersen Law https://gregersenlaw.com 32 32 Presentation to Real Estate Section of Utah Bar https://gregersenlaw.com/presentation-to-real-estate-section-of-utah-bar/ Wed, 17 Oct 2018 15:28:55 +0000 https://boundarydispute.com/?p=727 For reference, here is the Utah Boundary Law presentation which I deliver on October 18, to the Real Estate section of the Utah State Bar. There is far more material than I can cover in one hour, so I attach it. I look forward to this presentation, and hope it is useful.

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Boundary Line Agreements and Adjustments https://gregersenlaw.com/boundary-line-agreements-adjustments/ Sat, 24 Feb 2018 14:33:38 +0000 http://boundarydispute.com/?p=422 Today I am at the Land Surveyors convention in Las Vegas. My thanks to the Western Conference of Land Surveyors for allowing me to come.  I was honored to be able to give a presentation on Boundary Line Agreements and Lot Line Adjustments. This is a topic in which there is much need to help settle boundary matters, yet there are roadblocks and gray areas. Surveyors were present from many states, and we had a good discussion and were able to learn together.

Boundary Line Agreements, presentation

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Whether jury, or judge or BLM has say on boundary. https://gregersenlaw.com/331-2/ Fri, 20 Oct 2017 23:42:01 +0000 http://boundarydispute.com/?p=331 Yesterday I filed a pleading, in the fight of a boundary-criminal case:
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Surveying is a Hard Life https://gregersenlaw.com/surveying-hard-life/ Fri, 04 Aug 2017 03:44:43 +0000 http://boundarydispute.com/?p=313 You arrange for a land survey, because you need to know where your boundary is.  You wonder what is taking the surveyor so long, since all he/she has to do is bring out that GPS thing, which shows where your boundary is, right? Nope. It is more complicated than that.

Boundaries are controlled by things on the ground, such as monuments, stones, iron pipes, etc., which were set by the original surveyor and then adopted by the grantor who split up the land.

The way boundary law works, is that the original location of these controls the boundary position, even if the monument was not placed in the theoretically exact position which the surveyor intended. There is good reason for this, so that you don’t need to keep moving your house, every time it is discovered that there was a more theoretically correct way to have placed the monuments.

And it takes effort to locate the monuments (stones, brass caps, iron pins, etc.), to weigh them, to look at adjoining properties, etc.

So, when you hire a surveyor, make your needs known, and listen as the surveyor makes their needs known. Timely provide them documents they ask for. Stay in communication with them.

By understanding more of what the surveyor needs to accomplish, things can work better for everyone.

The following video (regular and YouTube versions) is mostly for fun, but it shows how looking for old survey monuments can be like looking for a needle in a haystack.

 

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Limits on state prosecution of Indian https://gregersenlaw.com/land-boundaries-criminal-law-case/ Sat, 22 Jul 2017 16:35:27 +0000 http://boundarydispute.com/?p=286 The City of Myton, Utah is limited in its ability to prosecute Indians on Indian land. Once again, land boundaries become important to criminal prosecutions.

Ute Tribe v. Myton

Ute Tribe v Myton reimposed limits on state and location prosecutions. Basically, Neil Gorsuch spanked the State of Utah and its localities. (Yes, Neil Gorsuch who was then on Tenth Circuit Court, and now on the U.S. Supreme Court.)  Judge Gorsuch renounced the state and local governments for trying to prosecute Native American Indians where they lack jurisdiction.

The City of Myton complained that federal law created a checkerboard of where they can and cannot prosecute. But the Tenth Circuit made clear that this is how things are.

Part of a Long History

The history of the West has created checkerboard boundaries, due to the railroads receiving every other square of land along the track they laid. But the Myton case involves another form of checker boarding. This one was created by the Congress. They basically took away Indian land so that it could be homesteaded by white settlers. Then later Congress changed its mind, giving unclaimed lands back to the Indians.

Repercussions in the Local Court

The Tenth Circuit made no secret of their frustration as to this and related cases. Similar issues keep coming before them. They removed from the case the present trial court judge, who was the distinguished and well-spoken Bruce Jenkins. They ordered that another judge be assigned. The District Court in Utah has now assigned the Honorable Robert Shelby to preside over the case.

The court of appeal is seldom so vocal in expressing its displeasure. But here it has kept seeing basically the same matter come before it, again and again. Few issues have seemed so resistant to quieting down. The Tenth Circuit implied that the State of Utah and its local governments, have gradually set about to expand their reach, contrary to the pronouncements of the Tenth Circuit Court of Appeals.

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Using boundary principles in a criminal case. https://gregersenlaw.com/using-boundary-principles-criminal-case/ https://gregersenlaw.com/using-boundary-principles-criminal-case/#comments Mon, 10 Jul 2017 18:18:57 +0000 http://boundarydispute.com/?p=244 Pleading 55_Redacted

Over the weekend, I filed a memorandum in a criminal case, arguing that the evidence is unclear that items alleged taken were on federal land.

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UCLS Chapter lunch. https://gregersenlaw.com/ucls-chapter-lunch/ Wed, 21 Jun 2017 13:32:17 +0000 http://boundarydispute.com/?p=90 On June 15, I gave a presentation to the Salt Lake surveyors, on Acquiescence. They provided good input, and we had a good discussion.

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